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Simon Singh and libel reform

A former member
Posted Mar 9, 2010 7:32 AM
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Since I couldn't be bothered to properly describe the case and its latest updates...

From Sense About Science
A former member
Posted Mar 9, 2010 7:45 AM
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Also, as an amusing side note:

Hitler on the evidence behind chiropractic care

Let the fairy healing begin.
Matt a.k.a. Stacey
Posted Mar 19, 2010 10:21 AM
Stacey_Melissa
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Thanks for the updated info on Singh's libel case. It sucks to see him get harassed like that, but it is at least nice to see someone stand up to the BCA.

My dad is a chiropractor, so I do know a bit about the practice and its legal wins here in the U.S. As recently as the 1980s, insurance companies (quite rightly) didn't pay for chiropractic treatments. But then the ACA (our BCA equivalent) sued over the discrimination and won. As always, quack doctors take their case to court, rather than peer-reviewed journals.
A former member
Posted Mar 19, 2010 11:02 PM
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To be fair, it's really only recently that i've heard chiropractors in the US floating claims about curing infant colic and all the other quackery that UK chiros are now being called out for. I went to one as a kid, and my mom still does on occasion for minor back complaints. While I recognize there's potential for injury, it never seemed like much of a threat.

On a completely unrelated note: I won't be able to stick around for the next meetup, but I will be sure to stop by to return your book.
Matt a.k.a. Stacey
Posted Mar 21, 2010 1:03 AM
Stacey_Melissa
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The healing claims made vary pretty wildly, depending on which chiropractor you're talking to. Palmer (the inventor) claimed it could heal pretty much any ailment, and a lot of D.C.'s nowadays stick pretty close to the same claim. Other D.C.'s limit their practices to back and neck pain treatment. As far as I can tell, the latter type are in the minority.

I could go on and on about the scientific naivety of virtually all chiropractors, and the crooked business practices of most of them, but I don't want this to turn into a rant. tongue

Don't feel like you have to make a special trip just to return my book. As long as I get it back reasonably soon, I'll be happy. I hope you enjoyed reading it.
Ga'kuct
Posted Mar 22, 2010 7:41 PM
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Also, as an amusing side note:

Hitler on the evidence behind chiropractic care

Let the fairy healing begin.


This is an awesome example of the bible. I don't know German, so I'm just going off the translation that was given. Hitler made reference to Elvis's death! Hitler supposedly died in a bunker at the end of WWII and seeing how Elvis didn't become famous till 1954-55 and died in 1977(ish); Hitler did foretell the death of Elvis! Just add in that the movie was made by someone who heard a story from another person of a 3rd person account of eyewitnesses who died 50 years ago! Its gotta be true, right?

For a second there I thought I was feeling religious.
Matt a.k.a. Stacey
Posted Mar 23, 2010 9:03 AM
Stacey_Melissa
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Here's another U.K. libel law story I saw recently. Besides mentioning Singh's troubles, it also talks about a Muslim guy who is suing over the Danish cartoons of Muhammad from a few years back. Never mind that Muhammad isn't around to be libeled.
Ga'kuct
Posted Mar 23, 2010 7:13 PM
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Read the article, and I don't know what to say. I thought we had some crazy lawsuits here in America.

I don't understand why the British would even hear a case outside their jurisdiction, unless some EU sanctions allow it. I would think then Danish would tell the British to pound sand, when it comes to what is published there or in any other country. What is next? Only BBC allowed in European homes?

"Never mind that Muhammad isn't around to be libeled." Seems all 90,000 descendants of Muhammad got their feelings hurt really badly. I don't think that talking shyte about my great great great great great great grandfather is a very good reason to sue, fight, or blow something up. I wonder If the journalist will have to prove each family tree of 90,000 individuals. I bet there are a few 'descendants' that wouldn't want that to happen.
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